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NY SNOWMOBILE TRAILS

Interactive Web Map and Trip Planner, Trail App, GPS Maps and Trail Conditions

NY SNOWMOBILE TRAILS

Photo Credit: Jay Ferris, Hamburg Snowmobile Club

General FAQs

What features are free and what do I have to pay for other features for the 2015-2016 season?

  1. Free use of web map to explore trails, plan routes, find businesses and parking, check web cams and snow depth. Route planning now includes multiple stops and loop routes.
  2. Free Oswego County trail app, no reception needed (Tug Hill area).
  3. Free Franklin County trail app, no reception needed (Malone to Adk Park area).
  4. Free Chautauqua County app, no reception needed (western New York area).
  5. Free statewide intersections, businesses, parking and waypoint files for GPS receivers
  6. Free NY State Snowmobiling trail app, no reception needed, now with turn-by-turn directions.
  7. $19.95 for downloadable NY Statewide Garmin GPS overlay map.
  8. $29.95 for NY Statewide Garmin GPS overlay map mailed as microSD card to you.
  9. $7.50 for regional .gpx track files, or $30 for entire state. For recreation grade GPS receivers.

How do I find out when new trails features are added to the web map or phone apps?

The best place is the home page or phone app page here within the website or by becoming a Facebook fan. Twitter is also an option, although limiting in terms of what can really be said.

What is your privacy policy?

Mohawk Valley GIS will not sell or share any email addresses gathered from this website. These addresses are used with our email marketing campaigns to announce new trails, data, and phone apps, promote club events, or provide helpful information to recreation enthusiasts. We do share the email addresses from registering within our free trail apps with our sponsors, as explained with the app privacy policies. You can opt out of email marketing at any time.

Do you sell paper maps?

Yes, we are happy to help out any member clubs who would like to use our online store to sell their maps.

Can t-shirts and MicroSD cards be picked up in person rather than ordered online?

Yes, stop by our office at 114 Genesee St., Utica NY to purchase items in person instead of online.

Web Map FAQs

Is the web map supported on Android/Apple phones?

The web map is only fully supported on desktops and laptops. Try any of our trail apps that work without reception and include several helpful features for use right on the trails. Tablets can be used to view the web map, with reception, however not all features are supported. We will be reworking the web map for the 2015 season so that smartphone users can view the trails as well.


How do I create a point A to point B route?    Video Demo

  1. click the New button under Route Planner, left side of map
  2. trails will change to green
  3. zoom/pan as needed to show where you want to ride
  4. click your starting destination (does not have to be right on trail), a red pin will display
  5. click your ending destination, a blue pin will display
  6. you can drag the red or blue pin if needed, in case trails do not connect
  7. your route will be shown in purple
  8. if you like your route, click the Save button and provide a name for your route
  9. if you don't like your route and want to reposition part of it, zoom in, then drag part of the route somewhere new - an acceptable spot will display a green circle. When happy, save your route.

How do I get my saved Point A to Point B route to my trail app?    Video Demo

  1. click the Load button under Route Planner, left side of map
  2. click the Get KML button for the route you wish to display in the trail app
  3. A pop up will ask you to save a .kml file to your computer.
  4. save this file, then send it as an email attachment to your email address
  5. open the email with the .kml file on your phone and select the attachment
  6. a menu will pop up and ask you what app you want to use to open the file, select the snowmobile trail app
  7. the route will be automatically loaded into your trail app
  8. the route can now be viewed in the app from the Routes menu (iPhone) or the Load Route menu (Android)

How do I get my saved Point A to Point B route to my GPS receiver?

  1. *** this method will only work if you have a recreation grade GPS receiver that can accept .gpx track files ***
  2. click the Load button under Route Planner, left side of map
  3. click the Get GPX button for the route you wish to display in the trail app
  4. A pop up will ask you to save a .gpx file to your computer.
  5. save this file, and then load the .gpx track file to your gps receiver
  6. if you need help, you can follow the GPS Instructions

Why is the amount of snow in the Snowdepth map different from what is on the ground?

Two reasons. First, NOAA posts their daily snowdepth data on their server at either 6 am or 2 pm each day, for the prior day. We grab the data at 5:30 pm, do lots of processing and post it in the webmap at 6:30 pm. What you are seeing is from yesterday. The second reason is the satellite tracking method used. Sometimes mixed precipitation is wrongly seen as snow, so the estimates in the snowdepth map can be off. Remember, the snowdepth map is not created by little elves who go out and measure the snow fall on the ground. If things look iffy in an area, check with the local club.

Phone Apps FAQs

I just downloaded the app and it fails to open. Any suggestions?

It is possible that part of the download was interrupted when installing. Try to uninstall and reinstall the app from a reliable WiFi connection. Also be sure to check for updates so that you are running the most recent version of the app.

Using the app drains the battery very quickly on my phone. Is there any way to fix this?

Mobile phones tend to die quickly when using GPS for an extended period of time. When not using the GPS features of the app turn off the "Use GPS" option in the app settings to save battery life. Also keep in mind that cold weather will drain the battery sooner as well.

How do I transfer my Point A to Point B route to my iPhone?    Video Demo

  1. In the web map, load your saved route (click on the tool icon to get started).
  2. Choose “Get KML” option, a file will be saved on your computer with a .kml extension (check your downloads folder).
  3. Attach that .kml file to an email that you send to yourself, to open on your phone. You need reception.
  4. Now on your phone, open the email and tap on the .kml extension.
  5. Most likely, you will be prompted to open it in Safari.
  6. You should then see a few “Open with” options, such as Google Earth and one or more of our snowmobile apps.
  7. Choose the desired snowmobile app.
  8. Depending on how long your route is, the transfer to the app may take some time. You will get a quick display message when the route is ready.
  9. To display the route, tap the Route button at the bottom left of your screen in the app. Choose the route from the list.

How do I transfer my Point A to Point B route to my Android phone?    Video Demo

  1. In the web map, load your saved route (click on the tool icon to get started).
  2. Choose “Get KML” option, a file will be saved on your computer with a .kml extension (check your downloads folder).
  3. Attach that .kml file to an email that you send to yourself, to open on your phone. You need reception.
  4. Now on your phone, open the email and tap on the .kml extension.
  5. You should then see a few “Open with” options, such as Google Earth and one or more of our snowmobile apps.
  6. Choose the desired snowmobile app.
  7. Depending on how long your route is, the transfer to the app may take some time. You will get a quick display message when the route is ready.
  8. To display the route, tap the menu button at top right of your screen in the app. Choose “Load Route”, then choose the route from the list.

How do I tap out a route in the app - Android version

  1. tap menu button to display Preferences
  2. check on Intersection pins
  3. tap a red pin at starting location
  4. tap Create a route, possible routes now shown as purple
  5. tap the next pin that connects, Add to Route
  6. continue this process, the saved route shows in green, your next choice(s) in purple
  7. when done, tap menu button, Save Route
  8. to display saved routes to follow, tap menu button, Load Route

How do I tap out a route in the app - iPhone version

  1. tap Settings to display preferences
  2. tap Trail Intersections switch and Show All Trails switch
  3. tap a red pin at starting location
  4. tap the Plus symbol
  5. at the bottom, tap on Create Route
  6. possible routes now shown as purple
  7. tap the next pin that connects, tap Plus symbol
  8. at the bottom, tap Add to Route
  9. continue this process, the saved route shows in green, your next choice(s) in purple
  10. when done, tap the arrow icon at the top of the screen to save
  11. to display saved routes to follow, tap Routes button and tap route you wish to follow

When you are building a route, if you choose a trailmarker/pushpin and add it to your route is there a way to remove it without starting the whole route over?

Yes, you can delete the last added point in a route by tapping that point again.

Do your snowmobile trail maps work on a Windows Phone?

Unfortunately due to the small market for Windows Phone we currently only support Android and iOS (iPhone) devices.

Is there a way to track where you came from, like breadcrumbs?

Yes, we do have breadcrumb tracking.

If you are on an iPhone – tap on the GPS blue dot to start tracking for 2014 version. Tap again when done tracking and save your path. Then you can follow your tracks back.

If you are on an Android device, 2014 version – tap on the compass in top corner to start tracking. Tap again when done tracking and save your path.

If you are on an Android device, 2015 version – tap the top left corner menu icon to start tracking. Tap the top right corner menu icon to stop tracking and save your path.

Can the trail apps be used on an Android tablet or iPad?

The apps are not designed to work on tablet devices and are not officially supported. However it is quite possible that the apps will run on tablets without problems. If you would like to run the app on a tablet please try one of our free snowmobile apps first to be sure that it runs well on your device.

I got a message saying there was an update. I didn't install it at that point. How do I get it?

The apps only check for trail updates once a day – so you may need to wait until tomorrow. And you must have a wi-fi connection at the time. You’ll be asked if you want to install the update.

I am having problems creating routes in a certain area. Am I doing something wrong?

Try zooming in closer. Some of the intersections are very close together and it can be hard to get the correct one sometimes. The pin actually looks like one pin, but zooming way in, you see it is actually two pins. If you still have trouble, please contact us asap with a screen shot of the area or the trail IDs and junctions - there may be a data error that we need to fix. Thanks.

When creating a trip on the app, if you try to circle back to a point/junction where you started, it does not allow you to select that same point to complete the loop. Am I doing something wrong?

No, this is a basic routing method where every point can only be used once. You'll need to stop/save your route shy of tapping the starting point. We are adding an enhancement to the web map project this year that will allow you to create routes easier on a big screen and then upload them to your smartphone or GPS device.

GPS FAQs

Do the GPS maps support the Nextar q4-06 unit?

Unfortunately that model cannot use our GPS overlay map or the track files.

My GPS is a Garmin eTrex Vista HCx. Will that work with the trail data?

The eTrex can use the tracks and waypoints but you won't be able to put the whole state on it, due to storage limitations. (If you have a smartphone you can use the phone app for the whole state).

I have a Magellan I use in the car. Is that supported?

Some of the Magellan units will accept the .gpx track files, but none of them support the statewide overlay map. The Garmin Nuvi is the only line of vehicle GPS receiver that can use the overlay map.

Do the Garmin 640 or Garmin 276 devices accept the tracks?

The Garmin 640 and 276 should both support our overlay map. The Garmin 276 should also support tracks and waypoints but is limited to 20, which is only 1 or 2 clubs' worth of trails. A sample map can be downloaded from our GPS page before purchasing so that you can be sure the map will work with your device.

Do you have a recommendation on which GPS units I should consider, based upon requirements for file formats, external use (weather), and cost?

We would suggest Garmin, but we don’t have a specific model to recommend. You want a decent size screen for readability, preferrably waterproof. The accuracy of all the recreation models is going to be the same. The price points are all about the extra features. Just get what you can afford that has the kind of features you think you will use. Some of you may want to consider the Trail Tech Voyager.

I have a Nuvi 550, will these maps work with this unit?    Video Demo

Yes, we have an overlay map for Nuvi's. There is also a free file you can try now on the website. The instructions are linked there as well.

I am looking to buy a Garmin Montana because of its durability and screen size. Will you have something to support this unit?    Video Demo

Yes, the Montana is a great choice, you can do either tracks/waypoints or the overlay map.

What about the Garmin GPSMAP 62, is this model supported?

Yes, that unit will be fine. You can add maps and you can have up to 200 tracks at one time.

If I am using a garmin Nuvi am I supposed to download any additional files to the gps besides the trail map file?

The overlay map includes the intersections, businesses, and parking all built into one file. However some Nuvi models may not automatically display them. In order to show certain points of interest they must be added through the "favorites" setting on the device. Once the location is favorited it should then display all the time on the map.

I put the .img file on the same MicroSD card as another map, but the GPS only recognizes the first map. Is there any way to fix this?

Some GPS units may only support one base map on an SD card at a time. If your GPS receiver does not support more than one map we do have pre-loaded cards available in the online store.